<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113102"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113101">I'm not prepared to approve an honorarium for presenters at this time. Also, it seems a topic more appropriate for the Camera Club, who dominated our last GGCS meeting.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113102"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113102"><span>Heinz</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113104"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113109" style="display: block;">  <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113108"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113107"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113106"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113105"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "steve@shank.net" <steve@shank.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:36 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: Jeremy Sutton possible appearance GM meeting July 24<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113115"><br><div id="yiv2299071731">
 
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113267">Hi Barbara,</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113259">Please send requests like this to the Presentations listserve (<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org">ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org</a>) 
rather than just Babette, Mike and me.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113261">I'm not sure how to react to the honorarium. On the one hand he's a good 
speaker and I admired much of his work, and an honorarium is probably necessary 
to get him. But perhaps we should think of a policy first before paying an 
individual. On the other hand, his talk is aimed at the pro-sumer and above as 
far as tips are concerned. I for one am not in that group.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113270">Also, I was surprised at how few GGCS members turned out for the 
iPhonography class compared to Marin Photo Club.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113274">Other comments, please.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113276">Steve</div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="bearba2@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" title-off="">Barbara Hansen</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:36 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="Steve@shank.net" ymailto="mailto:Steve@shank.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Steve@shank.net" title-off="">mailto:Steve@shank.net</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="bcbloch@juno.com" ymailto="mailto:bcbloch@juno.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bcbloch@juno.com" title-off="">Babette Bloch</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="nepenthium@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:nepenthium@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:nepenthium@comcast.net" title-off="">Mike 
Hancock</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Jeremy Sutton possible appearance GM meeting July 
24</div></div></div>
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<div>Hi folks </div>
<div id="yiv2299071731AppleMailSignature">Could we come up with 100. Dollars for this fine 
professional speaker who came for nothing last time.  Here are his speech 
topics and suggested fee.</div>
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<div id="yiv2299071731AppleMailSignature">Barbara Hansen<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
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  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113124"><b>From:</b> Jeremy Sutton <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com">jeremy@jeremysutton.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> 
  June 12, 2017 at 5:13:12 PM PDT<br><b>To:</b> Barbara Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1497483296149_113123">bearba2@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 
  Babette Bloch <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bcbloch@juno.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bcbloch@juno.com">bcbloch@juno.com</a>>, 
  "Shank <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:steve@shank.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:steve@shank.net">steve@shank.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Steve@shank.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Steve@shank.net">Steve@shank.net</a>>,  Mike Hancock 
  <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nepenthium@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:nepenthium@comcast.net">nepenthium@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> 
  <b>Re: Request for presentation in Marin</b><br><br></div></blockquote>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">Hi  
  Barbara,</div>
  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);"> </div>
  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">How 
  about 30 minutes with a photo painting demo in latest version of Painter, 
  showing clone workflow and some cool brushes etc. Then a 30 minute photo 
  painting demo using Art Rage on iPad followed by 30 minute live portrait 
  sketch demo using Procreate on iPad (plus final dance at end)!</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">The 
  Tilt Brush is a 3D VR paint program (see <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://jeremysutton.com/vr-vegas-2017">https://jeremysutton.com/vr-vegas-2017</a>) 
  - I could just show this video.</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">Re 
  honorarium, dinner for Peggy and I would be appreciated. If the numbers allow 
  offering a payment that is always welcome. For talks and presentations to 
  clubs and societies the honoraria have typically been in the range $100 - 
  $500.</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">Let's 
  plan to confirm by June 25th.</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">Cheers,</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(68,68,68);">Jeremy</div>
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  <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Barbara Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com">bearba2@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>Dear Jeremy,</div>
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    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Your subject ideas sound 
    exciting.  We certainly are in revolutionary times. Too much depth 
    would not be practical I suppose.  Certainly your live portrait  
    and dance are popular. What is  VR google tilt brush? I like the idea 
    of Painter vs Procreate. You also</div>
    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Might touch on a few other 
    apps.  Our last speaker emphasized Snapseed.</div>
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    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Confirmation wise I need to 
    publicize starting on June 26, so that only gives you about </div>
    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Two weeks to decide.  
    Right now I do not have a replacement.</div>
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    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">We normally only treat our 
    speakers to dinner, but we have discussed raising a larger amount which I 
    will push for.  Tell me what you normally get as a bargaining point for 
    me and I will see what I can do.</div>
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    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">So happy you may be able to 
    do it.</div>
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    <div id="yiv2299071731m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Barbara Hansen<br><br>Sent 
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    <div><br>On Jun 12, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Jeremy Sutton <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com">jeremy@jeremysutton.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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      Barbara,</div>
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      <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:#444444;">That's 
      a good duration. What did you think of my proposed topic? Do you think 
      that will be covering too much and your audience would prefer a tighter, 
      deeper session? What is the latest you nee confirmation regarding the 
      date?</div>
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      <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:#444444;">Cheers,</div>
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      <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_default" style="FONT-SIZE:small;FONT-FAMILY:verdana, sans-serif;COLOR:#444444;">Jeremy</div></div>
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      <div class="yiv2299071731gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Barbara Hansen 
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        <div>7:30 to 9:00 including Q and A. 
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        <div>Barbara Hansen<br><br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/footer0">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br>
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        Sunday, June 11, 2017, 12:28 PM, Jeremy Sutton <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jeremy@jeremysutton.com">jeremy@jeremysutton.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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          <div>Hi Barbara,</div>
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          <div>How long are the talks?</div>
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          <div>How about comparing Painter on Mac/PC with Procreate on iPad, 
          and, maybe, even a spot of VR Google Tilt Brush? Subject title could 
          be the following:-</div>
          <div>"State of the Art: Paint without Limits"</div>
          <div>Subtitle "A Survey of Digital Paint in Revolutionary Times"</div>
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          <div>Monday, July 24th looks good so far. Can we pencil it in with 
          firm confirmation nearer time? Please remind me of your GCS/MPC 
          honorarium.</div>
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          <div>Thanks for following up on this,</div>
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          <div>Cheers,</div>
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          <div>Jeremy</div>
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          <div>On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 1:52 PM Barbara Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bearba2@yahoo.com" shape="rect">bearba2@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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            <div>Hi Jeremy, 
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            <div>Would you be available to give a talk on Painter or iPad art on 
            Mon night, 7 pm July 24, 2017?</div>
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            <div>The Goldengate Computer Society and the Marin Photo Club would 
            love to have you back again.</div>
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            <div>We meet at a new. Meeting room next to Jason's Restaurant in 
            Greenbrae at 5:30</div>
            <div>For dinner with members before the meeting at</div>
            <div>7:00.</div>
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            <div>If that date is not good for you, 4th Monday's are our meeting 
            times thru Nov.</div>
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            <div>Cheers,</div>
            <div>Barbara Hansen</div>
            <div>V P GGCS</div>
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          <div>JEREMY SUTTON<br clear="none">Artist, Educator, Live Event 
          Painter<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Jeremy Sutton Studios
1890 Bryant 
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