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<p>I disagree! Members pay dues which go towards running the club. If there is an expense for a presenter that should be covered.</p>
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<p>Finding "free" presenters is not like it was 20 years ago where every vendor wanted to get their name out and had P/R budgets to send people out to us.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:18 PM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro@hotmail.com><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 PM<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497586125191_63202">I thought we had decided at one of the board meetings that if we needed to pay a presenter for his/hers services, in special cases, we could consider that.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497586125191_63205">It is true that this topic would be more photo related but look at how many "photo" GMs we have had over the years.</div>
<div>It also seems to me that most photo enthusiasts are way more active in going to events than the "computer geeks"!</div>
<div>Let's take a closer look at this and not dismiss it right off the bat.</div>
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<div>Given that we have a huge reserve, I think it is a good idea to pay for a really good speaker; however, Steve's point is well taken: this would not be a presentation to attract GGCS members, and is probably of little interest to any, other than to specialized
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<div>While our GGCS Digital presentation is aimed at advanced photographers, those photographers are primarily MPC and MPC/GGCS members, and the vast majority of our speakers are also MPC/GGCS members, and none of them gets a fee.</div>
<div>I agree; we need to discuss this.</div>
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<div>Hi Barbara,</div>
<div>Please send requests like this to the Presentations listserve (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org">ggcs-presentations@ggcs.org</a>) rather than just Babette, Mike and me.</div>
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<div>I'm not sure how to react to the honorarium. On the one hand he's a good speaker and I admired much of his work, and an honorarium is probably necessary to get him. But perhaps we should think of a policy first before paying an individual. On the other
hand, his talk is aimed at the pro-sumer and above as far as tips are concerned. I for one am not in that group.</div>
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<div>Also, I was surprised at how few GGCS members turned out for the iPhonography class compared to Marin Photo Club.</div>
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<div>Other comments, please.</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:36 PM</div>
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<div id="yiv3581265183AppleMailSignature">Could we come up with 100. Dollars for this fine professional speaker who came for nothing last time. Here are his speech topics and suggested fee.</div>
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How about 30 minutes with a photo painting demo in latest version of Painter, showing clone workflow and some cool brushes etc. Then a 30 minute photo painting demo using Art Rage on iPad followed by 30 minute live portrait sketch demo using Procreate on iPad
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The Tilt Brush is a 3D VR paint program (see <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://jeremysutton.com/vr-vegas-2017">
https://jeremysutton.com/vr-vegas-2017</a>) - I could just show this video.</div>
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Re honorarium, dinner for Peggy and I would be appreciated. If the numbers allow offering a payment that is always welcome. For talks and presentations to clubs and societies the honoraria have typically been in the range $100 - $500.</div>
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Let's plan to confirm by June 25th.</div>
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<div class="yiv3581265183gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Barbara Hansen
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<div id="yiv3581265183m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Your subject ideas sound exciting. We certainly are in revolutionary times. Too much depth would not be practical I suppose. Certainly your live portrait and dance are popular. What is VR google
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<div id="yiv3581265183m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Might touch on a few other apps. Our last speaker emphasized Snapseed.</div>
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<div id="yiv3581265183m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Confirmation wise I need to publicize starting on June 26, so that only gives you about
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<div id="yiv3581265183m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">Two weeks to decide. Right now I do not have a replacement.</div>
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<div id="yiv3581265183m_3580611024792468024AppleMailSignature">We normally only treat our speakers to dinner, but we have discussed raising a larger amount which I will push for. Tell me what you normally get as a bargaining point for me and I will see what
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That's a good duration. What did you think of my proposed topic? Do you think that will be covering too much and your audience would prefer a tighter, deeper session? What is the latest you nee confirmation regarding the date?</div>
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<div>How about comparing Painter on Mac/PC with Procreate on iPad, and, maybe, even a spot of VR Google Tilt Brush? Subject title could be the following:-</div>
<div>"State of the Art: Paint without Limits"</div>
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<div>Monday, July 24th looks good so far. Can we pencil it in with firm confirmation nearer time? Please remind me of your GCS/MPC honorarium.</div>
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<div>Thanks for following up on this,</div>
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<div>Would you be available to give a talk on Painter or iPad art on Mon night, 7 pm July 24, 2017?</div>
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<div>The Goldengate Computer Society and the Marin Photo Club would love to have you back again.</div>
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<div>We meet at a new. Meeting room next to Jason's Restaurant in Greenbrae at 5:30</div>
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<div>If that date is not good for you, 4th Monday's are our meeting times thru Nov.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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