From bcbloch at juno.com Mon Jan 9 19:41:25 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:41:25 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oserj at oserconsulting.com Mon Jan 9 22:53:50 2017 From: oserj at oserconsulting.com (Jim Oser) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: > > We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. > > With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. > > Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" > > The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. > > I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. > > How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? > > Babette > _______________________________________________ > Ggcs-presentations mailing list > Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com > http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvn.trai at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 23:10:44 2017 From: stvn.trai at gmail.com (Steven Traiger) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B26BCB5-0895-4825-9884-6C08487DA868@gmail.com> I like the idea, I?ve done a little, but couldn?t run a class. To know how it works is good information, its takes the fear out of not knowing. Steven > On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Jim Oser wrote: > > http://www.mvgate.org/about.html > > http://www.mvgate.org/ > > http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: >> >> We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. >> >> With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. >> >> Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" >> >> The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. >> >> I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. 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URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 23:12:53 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <817691934.72190584.1484025173114.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 10:55:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:55:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085533.21098.1@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Great resource, Jim, and thanks. Do you know any of the people they show? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Oser To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote:We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 10:57:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:57:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette:My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnogueiro at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 11:04:49 2017 From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino ________________________________ From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 11:12:08 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> References: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <32357985.72524223.1484068328277.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> OK with me. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Cc: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Wed Jan 11 14:37:49 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:37:49 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 19:35:21 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1655728264.73908822.1484184921110.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I like your third bullet ; how do they actually apply this learning?? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following: * What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs * What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). * How can you apply what you learn in a coding class * Is coding the same as programming * WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The original questions is: “How much Surge Protection do we need here in Northern California, where we rarely get thunder storms?" In looking on CNET I was surprised to see this:2. It's all about the joules.Surge protectors offer protection in amounts called joules. Think of this like a reservoir of protection. If a product has 1,000 joules of protection, that means it can take ten 100 joule hits, or one 1,000 joule hit. Generally, the more joules the better.Any thoughts?Chris HarnishMacSupport: Technical Support for Apple Users415.927.2289 iPhonecharnish at mac.comSkype: chrisharnish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wikipedia describes it as follows:The Internet Archive is a San Francisco–based nonprofit digital library with the stated mission of "universal access to all knowledge".[4][5] It provides free public access to collections of digitized materials, including web sites, software applications/games, music, movies/videos, moving images, and nearly three million public-domain books. As of October 2016, its collection topped 15 petabytes.[6] In addition to its archiving function, the Archive is an activist organization, advocating for a free and open Internet. The Internet Archive allows the public to upload and download digital material to its data cluster, but the bulk of its data is collected automatically by its web crawlers, which work to preserve as much of the public web as possible. Its web archive, the Wayback Machine, contains over 150 billion web captures.[7][8] The Archive also oversees one of the world's largest book digitization projects. Founded by Brewster Kahle in May 1996, the Archive is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit operating in the United States. It has an annual budget of $10 million, derived from a variety of sources: revenue from its Web crawling services, various partnerships, grants, donations, and the Kahle-Austin Foundation.[9] Its headquarters are in San Francisco, California, where about 30 of its 200 employees work[citation needed]. Most of its staff work in its book-scanning centers. The Archive has data centers in three Californian cities, San Francisco, Redwood City, and Richmond. To prevent losing the data in case of e.g. a natural disaster, the Archive attempts to create copies of (parts of) the collection at more distant locations, currently including the Bibliotheca Alexandrina[10] in Egypt and a facility in Amsterdam.[11] The Archive is a member of the International Internet Preservation Consortium[12] and was officially designated as a library by the State of California in 2007.[13 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Barbara Hansen To: "bcbloch at juno.com" Subject: Re: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Dear Babette, CAn you explain what this group is about for our GM?k It is the only email I found from you. Barbara H From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: info at archive.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:04 PM Subject: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society I am a member of the Presentations Committee of the Golden Gate Computer Society ( www.ggcs.org also see our MeetUp pages)) We are a non-profit, all volunteer User Group serving the San Francisco Bay Area (from Marin) for over 30 years, with 200 members and a large number of non member followers. In addition to our Special Interest Groups and classes, we hold a monthly General Meeting on the evening of the Fourth Monday, which is open to the public. We would be most interested in talking to you about a presentation describing the Internet Archive, it collections, services, mission and activities. I would appreciate it if you would direct me to the person who could explore this invitation with me. 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The only reply I got from Presentation was from Mike Hancock, who said he was especially interested in how the coding class material was applied (used). ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: isilva at bel-tib-lib.org Subject: February GGCS General Meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:19:03 GMT Ivan...Presentations Committee would be delighted to have you come for the February 27th General Meeting (dinner with us beforehand) and talk about Coding. I sent the Committee the suggested topics to cover and asked for their input. So far only 1 reply, who was especially interested in how they apply the things they learn. Feel free to let me know what you would or would not like to cover and any other topics you would like to add. It'll be great to have you with us again. Also, Kathy Hunsicker said something about the Library's having a Children's librarian who organizes the Teen Program. Is it correct that she runs or started a Coding for Girls program there? Do you want to have her come too? No pressure to do so, just wondering. Babette Topics on Coding I thought of:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sun Jan 22 22:15:54 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:15:54 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Message-ID: <20170122.201554.31838.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> This is the agenda our three speakers put together for the GM tomorrow. Looks good, and they had a sort of preview dry run at the Tablet SIG that went very well. Please note: forwarded message attached From: Nicole Engler To: "bcbloch at juno.com" , Philip King , Linda Siegel Subject: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:45:17 -0800 Hi Babette, Thanks for having me! Here is a rough outline for Monday's meeting that the three of us discussed. We will alter as needed depending on time and the audience's questions. NicoleNicole EnglerCo-Founder, Technology 4 Lifewww.technology4life.org On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: Hi Nicole...thanks so much for coming yesterday and for all your great input during the meeting. Would you Email me the outline you three put together for Monday's General Meeting. Thanks again, Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. > > Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" > > The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. > > I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. > > How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? > > Babette > _______________________________________________ > Ggcs-presentations mailing list > Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com > http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvn.trai at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 22:10:44 2017 From: stvn.trai at gmail.com (Steven Traiger) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B26BCB5-0895-4825-9884-6C08487DA868@gmail.com> I like the idea, I?ve done a little, but couldn?t run a class. To know how it works is good information, its takes the fear out of not knowing. Steven > On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Jim Oser wrote: > > http://www.mvgate.org/about.html > > http://www.mvgate.org/ > > http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: >> >> We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. >> >> With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. >> >> Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" >> >> The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. >> >> I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. 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URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 22:12:53 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <817691934.72190584.1484025173114.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:55:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:55:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085533.21098.1@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Great resource, Jim, and thanks. Do you know any of the people they show? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Oser To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote:We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:57:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:57:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette:My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnogueiro at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 10:04:49 2017 From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino ________________________________ From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 10:12:08 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> References: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <32357985.72524223.1484068328277.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> OK with me. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Cc: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Wed Jan 11 13:37:49 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:37:49 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 18:35:21 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1655728264.73908822.1484184921110.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I like your third bullet ; how do they actually apply this learning?? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following: * What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs * What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). * How can you apply what you learn in a coding class * Is coding the same as programming * WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The original questions is: “How much Surge Protection do we need here in Northern California, where we rarely get thunder storms?" In looking on CNET I was surprised to see this:2. It's all about the joules.Surge protectors offer protection in amounts called joules. Think of this like a reservoir of protection. If a product has 1,000 joules of protection, that means it can take ten 100 joule hits, or one 1,000 joule hit. Generally, the more joules the better.Any thoughts?Chris HarnishMacSupport: Technical Support for Apple Users415.927.2289 iPhonecharnish at mac.comSkype: chrisharnish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wikipedia describes it as follows:The Internet Archive is a San Francisco–based nonprofit digital library with the stated mission of "universal access to all knowledge".[4][5] It provides free public access to collections of digitized materials, including web sites, software applications/games, music, movies/videos, moving images, and nearly three million public-domain books. As of October 2016, its collection topped 15 petabytes.[6] In addition to its archiving function, the Archive is an activist organization, advocating for a free and open Internet. The Internet Archive allows the public to upload and download digital material to its data cluster, but the bulk of its data is collected automatically by its web crawlers, which work to preserve as much of the public web as possible. Its web archive, the Wayback Machine, contains over 150 billion web captures.[7][8] The Archive also oversees one of the world's largest book digitization projects. Founded by Brewster Kahle in May 1996, the Archive is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit operating in the United States. It has an annual budget of $10 million, derived from a variety of sources: revenue from its Web crawling services, various partnerships, grants, donations, and the Kahle-Austin Foundation.[9] Its headquarters are in San Francisco, California, where about 30 of its 200 employees work[citation needed]. Most of its staff work in its book-scanning centers. The Archive has data centers in three Californian cities, San Francisco, Redwood City, and Richmond. To prevent losing the data in case of e.g. a natural disaster, the Archive attempts to create copies of (parts of) the collection at more distant locations, currently including the Bibliotheca Alexandrina[10] in Egypt and a facility in Amsterdam.[11] The Archive is a member of the International Internet Preservation Consortium[12] and was officially designated as a library by the State of California in 2007.[13 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Barbara Hansen To: "bcbloch at juno.com" Subject: Re: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Dear Babette, CAn you explain what this group is about for our GM?k It is the only email I found from you. Barbara H From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: info at archive.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:04 PM Subject: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society I am a member of the Presentations Committee of the Golden Gate Computer Society ( www.ggcs.org also see our MeetUp pages)) We are a non-profit, all volunteer User Group serving the San Francisco Bay Area (from Marin) for over 30 years, with 200 members and a large number of non member followers. In addition to our Special Interest Groups and classes, we hold a monthly General Meeting on the evening of the Fourth Monday, which is open to the public. We would be most interested in talking to you about a presentation describing the Internet Archive, it collections, services, mission and activities. I would appreciate it if you would direct me to the person who could explore this invitation with me. 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The only reply I got from Presentation was from Mike Hancock, who said he was especially interested in how the coding class material was applied (used). ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: isilva at bel-tib-lib.org Subject: February GGCS General Meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:19:03 GMT Ivan...Presentations Committee would be delighted to have you come for the February 27th General Meeting (dinner with us beforehand) and talk about Coding. I sent the Committee the suggested topics to cover and asked for their input. So far only 1 reply, who was especially interested in how they apply the things they learn. Feel free to let me know what you would or would not like to cover and any other topics you would like to add. It'll be great to have you with us again. Also, Kathy Hunsicker said something about the Library's having a Children's librarian who organizes the Teen Program. Is it correct that she runs or started a Coding for Girls program there? Do you want to have her come too? No pressure to do so, just wondering. Babette Topics on Coding I thought of:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sun Jan 22 21:15:54 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:15:54 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Message-ID: <20170122.201554.31838.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> This is the agenda our three speakers put together for the GM tomorrow. Looks good, and they had a sort of preview dry run at the Tablet SIG that went very well. Please note: forwarded message attached From: Nicole Engler To: "bcbloch at juno.com" , Philip King , Linda Siegel Subject: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:45:17 -0800 Hi Babette, Thanks for having me! Here is a rough outline for Monday's meeting that the three of us discussed. We will alter as needed depending on time and the audience's questions. NicoleNicole EnglerCo-Founder, Technology 4 Lifewww.technology4life.org On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: Hi Nicole...thanks so much for coming yesterday and for all your great input during the meeting. Would you Email me the outline you three put together for Monday's General Meeting. Thanks again, Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oserj at oserconsulting.com Mon Jan 9 21:53:50 2017 From: oserj at oserconsulting.com (Jim Oser) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: > > We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. > > With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. > > Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" > > The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. > > I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. > > How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? > > Babette > _______________________________________________ > Ggcs-presentations mailing list > Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com > http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvn.trai at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 22:10:44 2017 From: stvn.trai at gmail.com (Steven Traiger) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B26BCB5-0895-4825-9884-6C08487DA868@gmail.com> I like the idea, I?ve done a little, but couldn?t run a class. To know how it works is good information, its takes the fear out of not knowing. Steven > On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Jim Oser wrote: > > http://www.mvgate.org/about.html > > http://www.mvgate.org/ > > http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: >> >> We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. >> >> With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. >> >> Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" >> >> The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. >> >> I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. 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URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 22:12:53 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <817691934.72190584.1484025173114.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:55:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:55:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085533.21098.1@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Great resource, Jim, and thanks. Do you know any of the people they show? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Oser To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote:We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:57:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:57:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette:My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnogueiro at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 10:04:49 2017 From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino ________________________________ From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 10:12:08 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> References: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <32357985.72524223.1484068328277.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> OK with me. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Cc: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Wed Jan 11 13:37:49 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:37:49 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 18:35:21 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1655728264.73908822.1484184921110.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I like your third bullet ; how do they actually apply this learning?? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following: * What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs * What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). * How can you apply what you learn in a coding class * Is coding the same as programming * WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The original questions is: “How much Surge Protection do we need here in Northern California, where we rarely get thunder storms?" In looking on CNET I was surprised to see this:2. It's all about the joules.Surge protectors offer protection in amounts called joules. Think of this like a reservoir of protection. If a product has 1,000 joules of protection, that means it can take ten 100 joule hits, or one 1,000 joule hit. Generally, the more joules the better.Any thoughts?Chris HarnishMacSupport: Technical Support for Apple Users415.927.2289 iPhonecharnish at mac.comSkype: chrisharnish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wikipedia describes it as follows:The Internet Archive is a San Francisco–based nonprofit digital library with the stated mission of "universal access to all knowledge".[4][5] It provides free public access to collections of digitized materials, including web sites, software applications/games, music, movies/videos, moving images, and nearly three million public-domain books. As of October 2016, its collection topped 15 petabytes.[6] In addition to its archiving function, the Archive is an activist organization, advocating for a free and open Internet. The Internet Archive allows the public to upload and download digital material to its data cluster, but the bulk of its data is collected automatically by its web crawlers, which work to preserve as much of the public web as possible. Its web archive, the Wayback Machine, contains over 150 billion web captures.[7][8] The Archive also oversees one of the world's largest book digitization projects. Founded by Brewster Kahle in May 1996, the Archive is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit operating in the United States. It has an annual budget of $10 million, derived from a variety of sources: revenue from its Web crawling services, various partnerships, grants, donations, and the Kahle-Austin Foundation.[9] Its headquarters are in San Francisco, California, where about 30 of its 200 employees work[citation needed]. Most of its staff work in its book-scanning centers. The Archive has data centers in three Californian cities, San Francisco, Redwood City, and Richmond. To prevent losing the data in case of e.g. a natural disaster, the Archive attempts to create copies of (parts of) the collection at more distant locations, currently including the Bibliotheca Alexandrina[10] in Egypt and a facility in Amsterdam.[11] The Archive is a member of the International Internet Preservation Consortium[12] and was officially designated as a library by the State of California in 2007.[13 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Barbara Hansen To: "bcbloch at juno.com" Subject: Re: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Dear Babette, CAn you explain what this group is about for our GM?k It is the only email I found from you. Barbara H From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: info at archive.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:04 PM Subject: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society I am a member of the Presentations Committee of the Golden Gate Computer Society ( www.ggcs.org also see our MeetUp pages)) We are a non-profit, all volunteer User Group serving the San Francisco Bay Area (from Marin) for over 30 years, with 200 members and a large number of non member followers. In addition to our Special Interest Groups and classes, we hold a monthly General Meeting on the evening of the Fourth Monday, which is open to the public. We would be most interested in talking to you about a presentation describing the Internet Archive, it collections, services, mission and activities. I would appreciate it if you would direct me to the person who could explore this invitation with me. Babette BlochGGCS Steering and Presentations Committees, Reviews Coordinator415-388-3864 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sat Jan 21 11:47:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:47:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: February GGCS General Meeting Message-ID: <20170121.104733.28873.2@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Barb- I thought I sent the Presentations Committee a message saying Ivan could do the Feb. meeting for us on Coding, and sent him the message below. In my message to Presentations, I also listed some topics on coding (see message to Ivan) and asked for input on whether they liked the list or had other topics they'd like covered. The only reply I got from Presentation was from Mike Hancock, who said he was especially interested in how the coding class material was applied (used). ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: isilva at bel-tib-lib.org Subject: February GGCS General Meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:19:03 GMT Ivan...Presentations Committee would be delighted to have you come for the February 27th General Meeting (dinner with us beforehand) and talk about Coding. I sent the Committee the suggested topics to cover and asked for their input. So far only 1 reply, who was especially interested in how they apply the things they learn. Feel free to let me know what you would or would not like to cover and any other topics you would like to add. It'll be great to have you with us again. Also, Kathy Hunsicker said something about the Library's having a Children's librarian who organizes the Teen Program. Is it correct that she runs or started a Coding for Girls program there? Do you want to have her come too? No pressure to do so, just wondering. Babette Topics on Coding I thought of:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sun Jan 22 21:15:54 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:15:54 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Message-ID: <20170122.201554.31838.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> This is the agenda our three speakers put together for the GM tomorrow. Looks good, and they had a sort of preview dry run at the Tablet SIG that went very well. Please note: forwarded message attached From: Nicole Engler To: "bcbloch at juno.com" , Philip King , Linda Siegel Subject: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:45:17 -0800 Hi Babette, Thanks for having me! Here is a rough outline for Monday's meeting that the three of us discussed. We will alter as needed depending on time and the audience's questions. NicoleNicole EnglerCo-Founder, Technology 4 Lifewww.technology4life.org On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: Hi Nicole...thanks so much for coming yesterday and for all your great input during the meeting. Would you Email me the outline you three put together for Monday's General Meeting. Thanks again, Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. > > Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" > > The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. > > I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. > > How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? > > Babette > _______________________________________________ > Ggcs-presentations mailing list > Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com > http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvn.trai at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 22:10:44 2017 From: stvn.trai at gmail.com (Steven Traiger) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 21:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8B26BCB5-0895-4825-9884-6C08487DA868@gmail.com> I like the idea, I?ve done a little, but couldn?t run a class. To know how it works is good information, its takes the fear out of not knowing. Steven > On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Jim Oser wrote: > > http://www.mvgate.org/about.html > > http://www.mvgate.org/ > > http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html > > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: >> >> We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. >> >> With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. >> >> Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" >> >> The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. >> >> I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. >> >> How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? >> >> Babette >> _______________________________________________ >> Ggcs-presentations mailing list >> Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com >> http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org > > _______________________________________________ > Ggcs-presentations mailing list > Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com > http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 22:12:53 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <817691934.72190584.1484025173114.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:55:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:55:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085533.21098.1@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Great resource, Jim, and thanks. Do you know any of the people they show? ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jim Oser To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 20:53:50 -0800 http://www.mvgate.org/about.html http://www.mvgate.org/ http://www.mvgate.org/contact.html On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote:We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Tue Jan 10 09:57:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:57:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette:My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnogueiro at hotmail.com Tue Jan 10 10:04:49 2017 From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> References: <20170109.174125.1481.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino ________________________________ From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Tue Jan 10 10:12:08 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> References: <20170110.085733.21098.2@webmail12.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <32357985.72524223.1484068328277.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> OK with me. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Cc: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM I thought we didn't have anything after January? Anyhow, we could do coding anytime if it seems desirable. bb ---------- Original Message ---------- From: nepenthium at comcast.net To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Babette: My SC notes say Feb GM is going to be about online databases, with Ivan participating? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41:25 PM Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Wed Jan 11 13:37:49 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:37:49 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Message-ID: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nepenthium at comcast.net Wed Jan 11 18:35:21 2017 From: nepenthium at comcast.net (nepenthium at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM In-Reply-To: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20170111.123749.2899.3@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1655728264.73908822.1484184921110.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> I like your third bullet ; how do they actually apply this learning?? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: bcbloch at juno.com To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:37:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM PLEASE JOIN IN AND SEND ME A LIST OF ISSUES YOU'D LIKE HIM TO TOUCH ON. I've thought of the following: * What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs * What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). * How can you apply what you learn in a coding class * Is coding the same as programming * WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? Babette ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro To: "GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org" Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:04:49 +0000 Yes, I like it. Let's try to get Ivan if possible. I think a GM on this will be great. Coding and Programming are basically the same but programming has become too general and can refer to "programming your thermostat"! Coding is more specific to writing software or now "Apps". Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations on behalf of bcbloch at juno.com Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 5:41 PM To: GGCS-Presentations at ggcs.org Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Possible February GM We talked about trying to establish a "theme" in our GM's that outreaches to parents of school and HS age kids. With that in mind, I think that something on Coding would be of interest to them, and even maybe to our regular over-aged membership. Kids all over are taking coding classes, and frankly I don't know the difference between coding and programming, what they learn, what it prepares them to do, etc. Something like "Demystifying Coding - What are your kids and grand kids doing in those classes, and can you learn to code-talk to them about it?" The only person I know right now who is conversant in coding is Ivan Silva at the Tiburon Library -he runs their program and classes on coding. I was at the library today for another meeting and talked to him about it and he says he could do the meeting and would be available for February. In fact he would like the idea of Feb. meeting, because it would give him time to plan it out. How does this sound to you folks and should I go ahead with this? Babette _______________________________________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The original questions is: “How much Surge Protection do we need here in Northern California, where we rarely get thunder storms?" In looking on CNET I was surprised to see this:2. It's all about the joules.Surge protectors offer protection in amounts called joules. Think of this like a reservoir of protection. If a product has 1,000 joules of protection, that means it can take ten 100 joule hits, or one 1,000 joule hit. Generally, the more joules the better.Any thoughts?Chris HarnishMacSupport: Technical Support for Apple Users415.927.2289 iPhonecharnish at mac.comSkype: chrisharnish -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wikipedia describes it as follows:The Internet Archive is a San Francisco–based nonprofit digital library with the stated mission of "universal access to all knowledge".[4][5] It provides free public access to collections of digitized materials, including web sites, software applications/games, music, movies/videos, moving images, and nearly three million public-domain books. As of October 2016, its collection topped 15 petabytes.[6] In addition to its archiving function, the Archive is an activist organization, advocating for a free and open Internet. The Internet Archive allows the public to upload and download digital material to its data cluster, but the bulk of its data is collected automatically by its web crawlers, which work to preserve as much of the public web as possible. Its web archive, the Wayback Machine, contains over 150 billion web captures.[7][8] The Archive also oversees one of the world's largest book digitization projects. Founded by Brewster Kahle in May 1996, the Archive is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit operating in the United States. It has an annual budget of $10 million, derived from a variety of sources: revenue from its Web crawling services, various partnerships, grants, donations, and the Kahle-Austin Foundation.[9] Its headquarters are in San Francisco, California, where about 30 of its 200 employees work[citation needed]. Most of its staff work in its book-scanning centers. The Archive has data centers in three Californian cities, San Francisco, Redwood City, and Richmond. To prevent losing the data in case of e.g. a natural disaster, the Archive attempts to create copies of (parts of) the collection at more distant locations, currently including the Bibliotheca Alexandrina[10] in Egypt and a facility in Amsterdam.[11] The Archive is a member of the International Internet Preservation Consortium[12] and was officially designated as a library by the State of California in 2007.[13 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Barbara Hansen To: "bcbloch at juno.com" Subject: Re: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Dear Babette, CAn you explain what this group is about for our GM?k It is the only email I found from you. Barbara H From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: info at archive.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:04 PM Subject: Presentation to Golden Gate Computer Society I am a member of the Presentations Committee of the Golden Gate Computer Society ( www.ggcs.org also see our MeetUp pages)) We are a non-profit, all volunteer User Group serving the San Francisco Bay Area (from Marin) for over 30 years, with 200 members and a large number of non member followers. In addition to our Special Interest Groups and classes, we hold a monthly General Meeting on the evening of the Fourth Monday, which is open to the public. We would be most interested in talking to you about a presentation describing the Internet Archive, it collections, services, mission and activities. I would appreciate it if you would direct me to the person who could explore this invitation with me. Babette BlochGGCS Steering and Presentations Committees, Reviews Coordinator415-388-3864 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sat Jan 21 11:47:33 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:47:33 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: February GGCS General Meeting Message-ID: <20170121.104733.28873.2@webmail02.dca.untd.com> Barb- I thought I sent the Presentations Committee a message saying Ivan could do the Feb. meeting for us on Coding, and sent him the message below. In my message to Presentations, I also listed some topics on coding (see message to Ivan) and asked for input on whether they liked the list or had other topics they'd like covered. The only reply I got from Presentation was from Mike Hancock, who said he was especially interested in how the coding class material was applied (used). ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: "bcbloch at juno.com" To: isilva at bel-tib-lib.org Subject: February GGCS General Meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:19:03 GMT Ivan...Presentations Committee would be delighted to have you come for the February 27th General Meeting (dinner with us beforehand) and talk about Coding. I sent the Committee the suggested topics to cover and asked for their input. So far only 1 reply, who was especially interested in how they apply the things they learn. Feel free to let me know what you would or would not like to cover and any other topics you would like to add. It'll be great to have you with us again. Also, Kathy Hunsicker said something about the Library's having a Children's librarian who organizes the Teen Program. Is it correct that she runs or started a Coding for Girls program there? Do you want to have her come too? No pressure to do so, just wondering. Babette Topics on Coding I thought of:What are the kids learning in all these "coding" classes and programs What should adults know about coding to understand it.- are there classes or resources for adult to learn something about coding? (Ivan has already told me he could cover this one). How can you apply what you learn in a coding class Is coding the same as programming WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO COVER AND SHOULD WE IGNORE ANY OF THE ABOVE? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bcbloch at juno.com Sun Jan 22 21:15:54 2017 From: bcbloch at juno.com (bcbloch at juno.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:15:54 GMT Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Message-ID: <20170122.201554.31838.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> This is the agenda our three speakers put together for the GM tomorrow. Looks good, and they had a sort of preview dry run at the Tablet SIG that went very well. Please note: forwarded message attached From: Nicole Engler To: "bcbloch at juno.com" , Philip King , Linda Siegel Subject: Re: Copy of Monday's preseation plan? Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:45:17 -0800 Hi Babette, Thanks for having me! Here is a rough outline for Monday's meeting that the three of us discussed. We will alter as needed depending on time and the audience's questions. NicoleNicole EnglerCo-Founder, Technology 4 Lifewww.technology4life.org On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM, bcbloch at juno.com wrote: Hi Nicole...thanks so much for coming yesterday and for all your great input during the meeting. Would you Email me the outline you three put together for Monday's General Meeting. Thanks again, Babette -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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