From russ at flaumphoto.com  Thu Jan  4 15:17:31 2018
From: russ at flaumphoto.com (Russ)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <000001d385a1$6f271ee0$4d755ca0$@flaumphoto.com>

I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would
talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update
presentation.

 

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  4 16:26:06 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:26:06 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
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Thanks.

Marcelino


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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:17 PM
To: GGCS Presentations Committee list
Cc: Ernie Ganas
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan  4 18:04:22 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:04:22 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <20180104.160422.27727.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Sounds great.  That would take the pressure off all others we contact, per last night's meeting. bb

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From: "Russ" <russ at flaumphoto.com>
To: "GGCS Presentations Committee list" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Cc: Ernie Ganas <ernie_ganas at msn.com>
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.
 
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Tue Jan  9 17:03:35 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 23:03:35 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000


Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette
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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 19:12:37 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
In-Reply-To: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZUbbZwkPqhUWUe-rMYUdLBhO3YbCZ_Tzg+d97ftQsJrMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before
the end of January?

Hugs,
C.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
> Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <
> kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
> Subject: RE: Encore please?
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000
>
> Babette:
>
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> Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26
> th would be fine.
>
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>
> Eric
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>
> P.S. We have finally released ?Print Budget Detail? ? a request from your
> meeting a year ago ?
>
>
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>
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> *From:* B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
> *To:* Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> *Subject:* Encore please?
>
>
>
> Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate
> Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
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> Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month
> (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the
> near future if you can swing by.
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> We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
>
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> Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
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> Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
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> Babette
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 12:08:02 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:02 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180111.100802.11551.2@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

He's coming in for MARCH meeting.  Done' we want that for the March Issue, which you do at end of February? Hugs, bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800


Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before the end of January?

Hugs,C.
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000

Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 12:31:37 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
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The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.

Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 17:12:00 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:12:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR04MB041413EF447C87E757DE379AA0160@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
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 <!--#yiv6542690042 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:22:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 17:25:57 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv3756386879 #yiv3756386879 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3756386879 Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:49:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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OK by me.

I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?


Thanks,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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Steering Committee
Presentations Committee

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Windows X SIG

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Internet and More

Third Friday
Tablet and Smart Phone

Fourth Monday
GGCS General Meeting

Fourth Tuesday
KeyNote for iPad



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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 17:58:23 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.
Heinz
I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.



      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv4822934409 #yiv4822934409 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv4822934409 OK by me.I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention?
Thanks,
Marcelino


From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 18:06:18 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <956985338.1523904.1515715103689@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks!

Marcelino


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:58 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.

Heinz

I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.




________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

OK by me.
I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?

Thanks,
Marcelino



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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 18:21:48 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:21:48 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  

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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)


We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz

         

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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 19:16:53 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:16:53 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
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I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be
pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
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> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
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>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
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> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
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> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 21:10:29 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

      From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
 To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 21:17:04 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?


It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.


Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.


Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 21:21:49 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:21:49 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZU8w_FOtUhBhKsGGu0d9Pp280t-yZPvcNxPffnSj=Hegw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Heinz,
What email should be in the filter then? The yahoo one is already in the
filter...
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened
> the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There
> are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well
> above industry average on both counts.
>
> Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the
> email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already
> have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from
> their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the
> last three emails from me were bounced.
>
> Heinz
>
>
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> *From:* B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
> *To:* heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>
> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 21:23:12 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:23:12 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414982B34BEF887645ED2ADA0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

73 out of 179!  Even if the industry average indicates that at 40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!  Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.

Sad,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.

Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.

Heinz


________________________________
From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 21:37:38 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
References: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210@mail.yahoo.com>

Note that the 179 number also includes the libraries and one or two comps.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>; "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
  
#yiv2322886861 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2322886861 73 out of 179!? Even if the industry average indicates that at?40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!? Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.
Sad,Marcelino


From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From bcbloch at juno.com  Fri Jan 12 11:36:12 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:36:12 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
 
It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
 
Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
 
Thanks,
 Marcelino

 
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
 To: List for the Presentations Committee
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  
 
 ---------- Original Message ----------
 From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
 To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
 Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
 
We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz          
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From nepenthium at comcast.net  Fri Jan 12 12:31:30 2018
From: nepenthium at comcast.net (MICHAEL HANCOCK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Message-ID: <660364008.413845.1515781890734@connect.xfinity.com>

Marcelino:

I have the same experience as you do, and I like it a lot! I use Comcast and Chrome.

Don't change!

Mike

> On January 11, 2018 at 7:17 PM Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
>     My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
> 
>     It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
> 
>     Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Marcelino
> 
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> 
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>     From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
>     To: List for the Presentations Committee
>     Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>      
>     I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
> 
>     We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
> 
>     best,
>     chris
> 
>     On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com mailto:bcbloch at juno.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.
> >          
> >         Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?
> >          
> >         Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.
> >          
> >         Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there. 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------- Original Message ----------
> >         From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com >
> >         To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com >,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com >,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com >,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net mailto:steve at shank.net >
> >         Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org >
> >         Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> >         Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
> > 
> >         We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
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From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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References: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>
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So you are going to www.ggcs.org<http://www.ggcs.org> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?


What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?

What browser are you using?


Thanks,

Marcelino



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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?



It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.



Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.



Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR04MB040790A84A86AF0DAB9F2B2DA0170@CY4PR04MB0407.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>
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Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.
The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv5976987708 #yiv5976987708 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv5976987708 So you are going to www.ggcs.org?first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.? Is that correct?
What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?? Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using?
Thanks,Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.?I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.? But I've already proofed it before it comes.? I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf??It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!? If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.? This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.? Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.??Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.?Thanks,
Marcelino

From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz?
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From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:19:16 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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The issue here is not about making the NL immediately available.  We leave that as is.


I'm just trying to understand and make sure that our members can "Easily" open the NL.  So far with the exception of Babbette's report, it looks like the link to the NL opens directly into a pdf.  The pdf can then be read on screen, printed or downloaded all from that initial link.


I have tested with Chrome, IE, Edge and Firefox and they all open the link as a pdf.


If this is not the case for anyone else, please let us know.


Thanks,

Marcelino




________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:53 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14d0f7cff2d44a40b78008d559fe9b7e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513872417177036&sdata=n2lJVXH4lTGp1XL8JZxDbtfdwNJsjpLmjHvyVCUWmK8%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:25:51 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that. The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 
So you are going to  www.ggcs.org first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct? What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using? Thanks,Marcelino   Golden Gate Computer Societywww.ggcs.orgPhoto courtesy of Russ Flaum FlaumPhoto Golden Gate Computer Society, Marin County&rsquo;s premiere computer user group since December 31st, 1990!  From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)  ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000  I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf? It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.  Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using. Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chrisOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.    ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz           ______________________________ _________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905. bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/ mailman/listinfo/ggcs- presentations_ggcs.org_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 18:27:30 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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OK, so that is exactly how it's supposed to work!  Once opened, you can just click File, Save or Save As, and save it to your computer.

BTW: You can also "RIGHT" click on the link in the email then click on "Save Link As" and you can save it directly to your computer without opening it.


I think what we have is as easy and as usable as it gets!  Getting members to open their emails might be a different story!!!!


Thanks,

Marcelino



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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:25 PM
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf9fa4870b77948d35ded08d55a1403ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513964366212534&sdata=%2BJ1EfEkb3NChKYw%2B0mOBokHxYFwBKobIJm1N7hq0lQw%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 18:34:47 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:34:47 -0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] {Disarmed} Re: GGCS January Newsletter
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ooops!  Here's the corrected draft...good news is that the calendar in the
NL was correct and the date in the story itself was correct and Jan. 27 is
a Saturday, not a Monday, so all that will help keep people on course with
the correct date.

Heinz, please post this updated draft online in case anyone refers to it...

Best,
Chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I
> just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
> *To:* Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
> *Subject:* Re: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
> *To:* Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <
> hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the
> 22nd.
> Looks like we all overlooked it!
>
> Heinz,
> Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcelino
>
>
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>
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From russ at flaumphoto.com  Thu Jan  4 14:17:31 2018
From: russ at flaumphoto.com (Russ)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <000001d385a1$6f271ee0$4d755ca0$@flaumphoto.com>

I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would
talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  4 15:26:06 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:26:06 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:17 PM
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Cc: Ernie Ganas
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I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan  4 17:04:22 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:04:22 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <20180104.160422.27727.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Sounds great.  That would take the pressure off all others we contact, per last night's meeting. bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Russ" <russ at flaumphoto.com>
To: "GGCS Presentations Committee list" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Cc: Ernie Ganas <ernie_ganas at msn.com>
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.
 
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Tue Jan  9 16:03:35 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 23:03:35 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000


Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 18:12:37 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
In-Reply-To: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZUbbZwkPqhUWUe-rMYUdLBhO3YbCZ_Tzg+d97ftQsJrMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before
the end of January?

Hugs,
C.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

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> From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
> Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <
> kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
> Subject: RE: Encore please?
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000
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> Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26
> th would be fine.
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> P.S. We have finally released ?Print Budget Detail? ? a request from your
> meeting a year ago ?
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> *From:* B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
> *To:* Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> *Subject:* Encore please?
>
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>
> Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate
> Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
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> Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month
> (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the
> near future if you can swing by.
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 11:08:02 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:02 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180111.100802.11551.2@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

He's coming in for MARCH meeting.  Done' we want that for the March Issue, which you do at end of February? Hugs, bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800


Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before the end of January?

Hugs,C.
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000

Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 11:31:37 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
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The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.

Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 16:12:00 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:12:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
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Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:22:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 16:25:57 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv3756386879 #yiv3756386879 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3756386879 Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:49:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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OK by me.

I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?


Thanks,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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Steering Committee
Presentations Committee

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Windows X SIG

Third Wednesday
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Internet and More

Third Friday
Tablet and Smart Phone

Fourth Monday
GGCS General Meeting

Fourth Tuesday
KeyNote for iPad



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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.
Heinz
I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.



      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv4822934409 #yiv4822934409 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv4822934409 OK by me.I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention?
Thanks,
Marcelino


From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:06:18 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <956985338.1523904.1515715103689@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks!

Marcelino


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:58 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.

Heinz

I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.




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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

OK by me.
I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?

Thanks,
Marcelino



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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:21:48 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  

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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)


We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz

         

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From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:16:53 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
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I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be
pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:10:29 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

      From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
 To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:17:04 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?


It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.


Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.


Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz

























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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:21:49 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:21:49 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZU8w_FOtUhBhKsGGu0d9Pp280t-yZPvcNxPffnSj=Hegw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Heinz,
What email should be in the filter then? The yahoo one is already in the
filter...
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened
> the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There
> are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well
> above industry average on both counts.
>
> Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the
> email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already
> have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from
> their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the
> last three emails from me were bounced.
>
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
> *To:* heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>
> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:23:12 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:23:12 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414982B34BEF887645ED2ADA0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

73 out of 179!  Even if the industry average indicates that at 40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!  Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.

Sad,
Marcelino



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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.

Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.

Heinz


________________________________
From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:37:38 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
References: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210@mail.yahoo.com>

Note that the 179 number also includes the libraries and one or two comps.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>; "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
  
#yiv2322886861 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2322886861 73 out of 179!? Even if the industry average indicates that at?40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!? Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.
Sad,Marcelino


From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From bcbloch at juno.com  Fri Jan 12 10:36:12 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:36:12 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
 
It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
 
Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
 
Thanks,
 Marcelino

 
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
 To: List for the Presentations Committee
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  
 
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 From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
 To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
 Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
 
We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz          
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From nepenthium at comcast.net  Fri Jan 12 11:31:30 2018
From: nepenthium at comcast.net (MICHAEL HANCOCK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Marcelino:

I have the same experience as you do, and I like it a lot! I use Comcast and Chrome.

Don't change!

Mike

> On January 11, 2018 at 7:17 PM Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
>     My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
> 
>     It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
> 
>     Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Marcelino
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
>     To: List for the Presentations Committee
>     Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>      
>     I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
> 
>     We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
> 
>     best,
>     chris
> 
>     On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com mailto:bcbloch at juno.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.
> >          
> >         Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?
> >          
> >         Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.
> >          
> >         Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there. 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------- Original Message ----------
> >         From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com >
> >         To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com >,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com >,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com >,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net mailto:steve at shank.net >
> >         Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org >
> >         Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> >         Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
> > 
> >         We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
> >          
> >         Heinz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
> >          
> >          
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> > 
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 11:40:17 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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So you are going to www.ggcs.org<http://www.ggcs.org> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?


What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?

What browser are you using?


Thanks,

Marcelino



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________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?



It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.



Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.



Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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	<CY4PR04MB040790A84A86AF0DAB9F2B2DA0170@CY4PR04MB0407.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.
The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv5976987708 #yiv5976987708 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv5976987708 So you are going to www.ggcs.org?first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.? Is that correct?
What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?? Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using?
Thanks,Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.?I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.? But I've already proofed it before it comes.? I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf??It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!? If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.? This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.? Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.??Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.?Thanks,
Marcelino

From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz?
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 14:19:16 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:19:16 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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The issue here is not about making the NL immediately available.  We leave that as is.


I'm just trying to understand and make sure that our members can "Easily" open the NL.  So far with the exception of Babbette's report, it looks like the link to the NL opens directly into a pdf.  The pdf can then be read on screen, printed or downloaded all from that initial link.


I have tested with Chrome, IE, Edge and Firefox and they all open the link as a pdf.


If this is not the case for anyone else, please let us know.


Thanks,

Marcelino




________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:53 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14d0f7cff2d44a40b78008d559fe9b7e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513872417177036&sdata=n2lJVXH4lTGp1XL8JZxDbtfdwNJsjpLmjHvyVCUWmK8%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From bcbloch at juno.com  Fri Jan 12 16:25:51 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:25:51 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that. The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 
So you are going to  www.ggcs.org first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct? What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using? Thanks,Marcelino   Golden Gate Computer Societywww.ggcs.orgPhoto courtesy of Russ Flaum FlaumPhoto Golden Gate Computer Society, Marin County&rsquo;s premiere computer user group since December 31st, 1990!  From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)  ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000  I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf? It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.  Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using. Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chrisOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.    ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz           ______________________________ _________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905. bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/ mailman/listinfo/ggcs- presentations_ggcs.org_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 17:27:30 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
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OK, so that is exactly how it's supposed to work!  Once opened, you can just click File, Save or Save As, and save it to your computer.

BTW: You can also "RIGHT" click on the link in the email then click on "Save Link As" and you can save it directly to your computer without opening it.


I think what we have is as easy and as usable as it gets!  Getting members to open their emails might be a different story!!!!


Thanks,

Marcelino



________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:25 PM
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf9fa4870b77948d35ded08d55a1403ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513964366212534&sdata=%2BJ1EfEkb3NChKYw%2B0mOBokHxYFwBKobIJm1N7hq0lQw%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:34:47 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:34:47 -0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] {Disarmed} Re: GGCS January Newsletter
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ooops!  Here's the corrected draft...good news is that the calendar in the
NL was correct and the date in the story itself was correct and Jan. 27 is
a Saturday, not a Monday, so all that will help keep people on course with
the correct date.

Heinz, please post this updated draft online in case anyone refers to it...

Best,
Chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I
> just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
> *To:* Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
> *Subject:* Re: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
> *To:* Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <
> hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the
> 22nd.
> Looks like we all overlooked it!
>
> Heinz,
> Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcelino
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.
> mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
> *To:* mnogueiro at hotmail.com
> *Subject:* GGCS January Newsletter
>
> *What's new at the GGCS?*
> Your January issue of the Golden Gate Computer Society?s Newsletter is now
> available to you on line in PDF format.
>
> Following is the link to the Newsletter?s web page.  You may read it on
> line and/or download it to your computer or tablet after you click on the
> link. You may also print out a hard copy of the file for your own use.
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From russ at flaumphoto.com  Thu Jan  4 14:17:31 2018
From: russ at flaumphoto.com (Russ)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <000001d385a1$6f271ee0$4d755ca0$@flaumphoto.com>

I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would
talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update
presentation.

 

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  4 15:26:06 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:26:06 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
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Thanks.

Marcelino


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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:17 PM
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Cc: Ernie Ganas
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I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan  4 17:04:22 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:04:22 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <20180104.160422.27727.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Sounds great.  That would take the pressure off all others we contact, per last night's meeting. bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Russ" <russ at flaumphoto.com>
To: "GGCS Presentations Committee list" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Cc: Ernie Ganas <ernie_ganas at msn.com>
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.
 
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Tue Jan  9 16:03:35 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 23:03:35 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000


Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette
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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 18:12:37 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
In-Reply-To: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZUbbZwkPqhUWUe-rMYUdLBhO3YbCZ_Tzg+d97ftQsJrMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before
the end of January?

Hugs,
C.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
> Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <
> kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
> Subject: RE: Encore please?
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000
>
> Babette:
>
>
>
> Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26
> th would be fine.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> P.S. We have finally released ?Print Budget Detail? ? a request from your
> meeting a year ago ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
> *To:* Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> *Subject:* Encore please?
>
>
>
> Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate
> Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
>
>
>
> Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month
> (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the
> near future if you can swing by.
>
>
>
> We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
>
>
>
> Babette
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 11:08:02 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:02 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180111.100802.11551.2@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

He's coming in for MARCH meeting.  Done' we want that for the March Issue, which you do at end of February? Hugs, bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800


Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before the end of January?

Hugs,C.
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000

Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 11:31:37 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
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The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.

Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 16:12:00 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:12:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
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Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:22:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <680132755.1521709.1515712320113@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <d048a3630a2ceac9f425b230a.d33266b9a9.20180111002411.0a95d91791.54b94d6c@mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net>
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Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR04MB0414E815FB53DF31D5275E56A0160@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d048a3630a2ceac9f425b230a.d33266b9a9.20180111002411.0a95d91791.54b94d6c@mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net>
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Message-ID: <154519034.1517743.1515713157170@mail.yahoo.com>

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv3756386879 #yiv3756386879 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3756386879 Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:49:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <154519034.1517743.1515713157170@mail.yahoo.com>
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OK by me.

I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?


Thanks,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.
Heinz
I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.



      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
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Thanks,
Marcelino


From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:06:18 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <956985338.1523904.1515715103689@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks!

Marcelino


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:58 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.

Heinz

I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.




________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

OK by me.
I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?

Thanks,
Marcelino



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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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Steering Committee
Presentations Committee

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Second Thursday
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Third Wednesday
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Internet and More

Third Friday
Tablet and Smart Phone

Fourth Monday
GGCS General Meeting

Fourth Tuesday
KeyNote for iPad



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 17:21:48 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:21:48 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)


We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz

         

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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 18:16:53 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:16:53 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
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I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be
pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
>
> Heinz
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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:10:29 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

      From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
 To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:17:04 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?


It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.


Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.


Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz

























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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:21:49 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:21:49 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZU8w_FOtUhBhKsGGu0d9Pp280t-yZPvcNxPffnSj=Hegw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Heinz,
What email should be in the filter then? The yahoo one is already in the
filter...
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened
> the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There
> are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well
> above industry average on both counts.
>
> Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the
> email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already
> have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from
> their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the
> last three emails from me were bounced.
>
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
> *To:* heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>
> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
>
> Heinz
>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:23:12 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:23:12 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414982B34BEF887645ED2ADA0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

73 out of 179!  Even if the industry average indicates that at 40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!  Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.

Sad,
Marcelino



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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.

Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.

Heinz


________________________________
From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


























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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:37:38 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
References: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210@mail.yahoo.com>

Note that the 179 number also includes the libraries and one or two comps.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>; "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
  
#yiv2322886861 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2322886861 73 out of 179!? Even if the industry average indicates that at?40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!? Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.
Sad,Marcelino


From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:36:12 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
 
It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
 
Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
 
Thanks,
 Marcelino

 
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
 To: List for the Presentations Committee
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  
 
 ---------- Original Message ----------
 From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
 To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
 Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
 
We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz          
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From nepenthium at comcast.net  Fri Jan 12 11:31:30 2018
From: nepenthium at comcast.net (MICHAEL HANCOCK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Marcelino:

I have the same experience as you do, and I like it a lot! I use Comcast and Chrome.

Don't change!

Mike

> On January 11, 2018 at 7:17 PM Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
>     My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
> 
>     It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
> 
>     Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Marcelino
> 
> 
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
>     To: List for the Presentations Committee
>     Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>      
>     I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
> 
>     We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
> 
>     best,
>     chris
> 
>     On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com mailto:bcbloch at juno.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.
> >          
> >         Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?
> >          
> >         Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.
> >          
> >         Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there. 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------- Original Message ----------
> >         From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com >
> >         To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com >,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com >,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com >,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net mailto:steve at shank.net >
> >         Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org >
> >         Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> >         Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
> > 
> >         We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
> >          
> >         Heinz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 11:40:17 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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So you are going to www.ggcs.org<http://www.ggcs.org> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?


What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?

What browser are you using?


Thanks,

Marcelino



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________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?



It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.



Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.



Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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	<CY4PR04MB040790A84A86AF0DAB9F2B2DA0170@CY4PR04MB0407.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.
The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv5976987708 #yiv5976987708 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv5976987708 So you are going to www.ggcs.org?first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.? Is that correct?
What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?? Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using?
Thanks,Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.?I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.? But I've already proofed it before it comes.? I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf??It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!? If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.? This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.? Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.??Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.?Thanks,
Marcelino

From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz?
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 14:19:16 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:19:16 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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The issue here is not about making the NL immediately available.  We leave that as is.


I'm just trying to understand and make sure that our members can "Easily" open the NL.  So far with the exception of Babbette's report, it looks like the link to the NL opens directly into a pdf.  The pdf can then be read on screen, printed or downloaded all from that initial link.


I have tested with Chrome, IE, Edge and Firefox and they all open the link as a pdf.


If this is not the case for anyone else, please let us know.


Thanks,

Marcelino




________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:53 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C14d0f7cff2d44a40b78008d559fe9b7e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513872417177036&sdata=n2lJVXH4lTGp1XL8JZxDbtfdwNJsjpLmjHvyVCUWmK8%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

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From bcbloch at juno.com  Fri Jan 12 16:25:51 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:25:51 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that. The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 
So you are going to  www.ggcs.org first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct? What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using? Thanks,Marcelino   Golden Gate Computer Societywww.ggcs.orgPhoto courtesy of Russ Flaum FlaumPhoto Golden Gate Computer Society, Marin County&rsquo;s premiere computer user group since December 31st, 1990!  From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)  ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000  I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf? It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.  Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using. Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chrisOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.    ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz           ______________________________ _________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905. bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/ mailman/listinfo/ggcs- presentations_ggcs.org_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 17:27:30 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
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OK, so that is exactly how it's supposed to work!  Once opened, you can just click File, Save or Save As, and save it to your computer.

BTW: You can also "RIGHT" click on the link in the email then click on "Save Link As" and you can save it directly to your computer without opening it.


I think what we have is as easy and as usable as it gets!  Getting members to open their emails might be a different story!!!!


Thanks,

Marcelino



________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:25 PM
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

So you are going to www.ggcs.org<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ggcs.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf9fa4870b77948d35ded08d55a1403ef%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636513964366212534&sdata=%2BJ1EfEkb3NChKYw%2B0mOBokHxYFwBKobIJm1N7hq0lQw%3D&reserved=0> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?

What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:34:47 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:34:47 -0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] {Disarmed} Re: GGCS January Newsletter
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ooops!  Here's the corrected draft...good news is that the calendar in the
NL was correct and the date in the story itself was correct and Jan. 27 is
a Saturday, not a Monday, so all that will help keep people on course with
the correct date.

Heinz, please post this updated draft online in case anyone refers to it...

Best,
Chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I
> just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
> *To:* Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
> *Subject:* Re: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
> *To:* Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <
> hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the
> 22nd.
> Looks like we all overlooked it!
>
> Heinz,
> Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcelino
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.
> mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
> *To:* mnogueiro at hotmail.com
> *Subject:* GGCS January Newsletter
>
> *What's new at the GGCS?*
> Your January issue of the Golden Gate Computer Society?s Newsletter is now
> available to you on line in PDF format.
>
> Following is the link to the Newsletter?s web page.  You may read it on
> line and/or download it to your computer or tablet after you click on the
> link. You may also print out a hard copy of the file for your own use.
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From russ at flaumphoto.com  Thu Jan  4 14:17:31 2018
From: russ at flaumphoto.com (Russ)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <000001d385a1$6f271ee0$4d755ca0$@flaumphoto.com>

I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would
talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update
presentation.

 

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan  4 15:26:06 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:26:06 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
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Thanks.

Marcelino


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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:17 PM
To: GGCS Presentations Committee list
Cc: Ernie Ganas
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan  4 17:04:22 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:04:22 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Message-ID: <20180104.160422.27727.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Sounds great.  That would take the pressure off all others we contact, per last night's meeting. bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Russ" <russ at flaumphoto.com>
To: "GGCS Presentations Committee list" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Cc: Ernie Ganas <ernie_ganas at msn.com>
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Feb Meeting
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 13:17:31 -0800


I talked to Ernie this morning about the February GM and he said he would talk to John and that they could probably do a Windows 10 update presentation.
 
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Tue Jan  9 16:03:35 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 23:03:35 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000


Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette
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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 18:12:37 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
In-Reply-To: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180109.150335.19237.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZUbbZwkPqhUWUe-rMYUdLBhO3YbCZ_Tzg+d97ftQsJrMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before
the end of January?

Hugs,
C.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
> Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <
> kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
> Subject: RE: Encore please?
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000
>
> Babette:
>
>
>
> Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26
> th would be fine.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> P.S. We have finally released ?Print Budget Detail? ? a request from your
> meeting a year ago ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
> *To:* Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
> *Subject:* Encore please?
>
>
>
> Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate
> Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
>
>
>
> Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month
> (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the
> near future if you can swing by.
>
>
>
> We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
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>
>
> Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
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>
> Babette
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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 11:08:02 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:02 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Message-ID: <20180111.100802.11551.2@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

He's coming in for MARCH meeting.  Done' we want that for the March Issue, which you do at end of February? Hugs, bb

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] Eric Dunn of Quicken confirmed for March GM
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 17:12:37 -0800


Hi Babette,

Can you finagle a page one newsletter story about his presentation before the end of January?

Hugs,C.
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:


---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
To: "B. Bloch" <bcbloch at juno.com>
Cc: Aimee Young <aimee.young at quicken.com>, Kathy Finnegan <kathy.finnegan at quicken.com>
Subject: RE: Encore please?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:14:18 +0000

Babette:
 
Yes, I would be happy to return and meet with your group.  Monday March 26th would be fine.
 
Eric
 
P.S. We have finally released &ldquo;Print Budget Detail&rdquo; &ndash; a request from your meeting a year ago &#128522;
 
 
 
From: B. Bloch [mailto:bcbloch at juno.com] 
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 2:30 PM
 To: Eric Dunn <eric.dunn at quicken.com>
 Subject: Encore please?
 
Hi Eric...could we entice you back for an encore to bring our Golden Gate Computer Society members up to date on what's new and doing at Quicken?
 
Our General Meetings still take place on the fourth Monday of each month (except December), and we'd love to hear from you and Quicken again in the near future if you can swing by.
 
We are open for the March 26th meeting onward.
 
Please let me know if you can fit us into your schedule.
 
Meanwhile, Happy New Year!
 
Babette

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 11:31:37 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:31:37 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <d048a3630a2ceac9f425b230a.d33266b9a9.20180111002411.0a95d91791.54b94d6c@mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net>
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Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB041413EF447C87E757DE379AA0160@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.

Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:12:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
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 <!--#yiv6542690042 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}-->The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:22:28 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:22:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <680132755.1521709.1515712320113@mail.yahoo.com>
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Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 16:25:57 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
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#yiv3756386879 #yiv3756386879 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3756386879 Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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OK by me.

I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?


Thanks,
Marcelino



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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


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From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.
Heinz
I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.



      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv4822934409 #yiv4822934409 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv4822934409 OK by me.I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention?
Thanks,
Marcelino


From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?? I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.

From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter?I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.Heinz

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.? It should be the 22nd.Looks like we all overlooked it!
Heinz,Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
Thanks,Marcelino

From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
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Subject: GGCS January Newsletter?
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:06:18 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <956985338.1523904.1515715103689@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks!

Marcelino


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:58 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

PDF file has been "repaired" and no longer gives wrong date for GM.

Heinz

I use WonderShare PDFElement to edit pdf files.




________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

OK by me.
I did get one email letting me know the NL has the wrong date, so at least one person is paying attention ?

Thanks,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.


________________________________
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
To: Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
Subject: Re: GGCS January Newsletter

I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
Heinz


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: Fw: GGCS January Newsletter

The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the 22nd.
Looks like we all overlooked it!

Heinz,
Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
To: mnogueiro at hotmail.com
Subject: GGCS January Newsletter


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Following is the link to the Newsletter?s web page.  You may read it on line and/or download it to your computer or tablet after you click on the link. You may also print out a hard copy of the file for your own use.
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Apple Devices
Steering Committee
Presentations Committee

Second Tuesday
Quicken and Personal Finances

Second Thursday
Windows X SIG

Third Wednesday
Digital Camera
Internet and More

Third Friday
Tablet and Smart Phone

Fourth Monday
GGCS General Meeting

Fourth Tuesday
KeyNote for iPad



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From bcbloch at juno.com  Thu Jan 11 17:21:48 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:21:48 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)


We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz

         

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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 18:16:53 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:16:53 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be
pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
>
> Heinz
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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:10:29 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

      From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
 To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:17:04 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
	<CAFz3KZW5tN6NH61hLHs6QfituuK7gD_jLesog_kkPW_-9mYNaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?


It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.


Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.


Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...

We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.

best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz

























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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:21:49 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:21:49 -0800
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFz3KZU8w_FOtUhBhKsGGu0d9Pp280t-yZPvcNxPffnSj=Hegw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Heinz,
What email should be in the filter then? The yahoo one is already in the
filter...
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened
> the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There
> are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well
> above industry average on both counts.
>
> Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the
> email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already
> have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from
> their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the
> last three emails from me were bounced.
>
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
> *To:* heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>
> That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the
> NL.
>
> Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then
> to the NL there to view or DL it?
>
> Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get
> the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have
> been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going
> to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's
> an attachment, I get it right away.
>
> Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as
> an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL
> it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <
> chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,
>  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
>
> We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I
> get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are
> extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published
> newsletter.
>
> Heinz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:23:12 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:23:12 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
	<662343666.1650000.1515726629520@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR04MB0414982B34BEF887645ED2ADA0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

73 out of 179!  Even if the industry average indicates that at 40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!  Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.

Sad,
Marcelino



________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.

Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.

Heinz


________________________________
From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz


























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From heinzs at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 11 20:37:38 2018
From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
References: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <872543522.1634276.1515728258210@mail.yahoo.com>

Note that the 179 number also includes the libraries and one or two comps.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>; "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
  
#yiv2322886861 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2322886861 73 out of 179!? Even if the industry average indicates that at?40.8% we are doing well, it's disturbing to me that only 73 members are clicking on the message!? Not to mention that doesn't actually tell us if they actually open the pdf.
Sad,Marcelino


From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: B. Bloch; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?Ok. I checked the stats for Mailchimp and apparently 73 of 179 have opened the email (40.8%) compared to a non-profit industry average of 20.9%. There are, so far, 37 clicks (24.8%) compared to an average 2.3%, so we're well above industry average on both counts.
Adding the newsletter as an attachment increases the bandwidth of the email and the chance that it is going to be considered spam. We already have issues with people's spam filters keeping my Yahoo mail, etc. from their inboxes. Chris, you need to put me in your recipients list as the last three emails from me were bounced.
Heinz

From: B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

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From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz


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From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:36:12 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
 
It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
 
Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
 
Thanks,
 Marcelino

 
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
 To: List for the Presentations Committee
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.  
 
 ---------- Original Message ----------
 From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
 To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
 Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
 
We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz          
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From: nepenthium at comcast.net (MICHAEL HANCOCK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR04MB0414FDEDEA765734AB780C96A0170@MWHPR04MB0414.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20180111.162148.11479.0@webmail13.dca.untd.com>,
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Marcelino:

I have the same experience as you do, and I like it a lot! I use Comcast and Chrome.

Don't change!

Mike

> On January 11, 2018 at 7:17 PM Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
>     My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?
> 
>     It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened. 
> 
>     Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Marcelino
> 
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> 
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
>     Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
>     To: List for the Presentations Committee
>     Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
>      
>     I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
> 
>     We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
> 
>     best,
>     chris
> 
>     On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com mailto:bcbloch at juno.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.
> >          
> >         Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?
> >          
> >         Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.
> >          
> >         Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there. 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         ---------- Original Message ----------
> >         From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com >
> >         To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com >,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com >,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com >,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net mailto:steve at shank.net >
> >         Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org >
> >         Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
> >         Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)
> > 
> >         We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 11:40:17 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>
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So you are going to www.ggcs.org<http://www.ggcs.org> first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct?


What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?

What browser are you using?


Thanks,

Marcelino



[http://www.ggcs.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/71_72_73_74_75-1017x273HDR2.jpg]<http://www.ggcs.org/>

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________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.

My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?



It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.



Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.



Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From: heinzs at yahoo.com (Heinz Scheuenstuhl)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR04MB040790A84A86AF0DAB9F2B2DA0170@CY4PR04MB0407.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>
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Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.
The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

      From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
   
#yiv5976987708 #yiv5976987708 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv5976987708 So you are going to www.ggcs.org?first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.? Is that correct?
What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?? Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using?
Thanks,Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.?I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.? But I've already proofed it before it comes.? I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf??It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!? If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.? This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.? Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.??Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.?Thanks,
Marcelino

From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter?I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chris
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:

That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.?Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it??Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.? I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.?Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?? When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.??

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>, ?Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>, ?Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>, ?Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.?Heinz?
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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 14:19:16 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:19:16 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
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References: <20180112.093612.13039.3@webmail12.dca.untd.com>
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The issue here is not about making the NL immediately available.  We leave that as is.


I'm just trying to understand and make sure that our members can "Easily" open the NL.  So far with the exception of Babbette's report, it looks like the link to the NL opens directly into a pdf.  The pdf can then be read on screen, printed or downloaded all from that initial link.


I have tested with Chrome, IE, Edge and Firefox and they all open the link as a pdf.


If this is not the case for anyone else, please let us know.


Thanks,

Marcelino




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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:53 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

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What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000

I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From bcbloch at juno.com  Fri Jan 12 16:25:51 2018
From: bcbloch at juno.com (B. Bloch)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:25:51 GMT
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Message-ID: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that. The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.

From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
 To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> 
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
 
So you are going to  www.ggcs.org first, then you click on the Newsletters tab, then selecting from the list and clicking on the one that you want to open.  Is that correct? What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?What browser are you using? Thanks,Marcelino   Golden Gate Computer Societywww.ggcs.orgPhoto courtesy of Russ Flaum FlaumPhoto Golden Gate Computer Society, Marin County&rsquo;s premiere computer user group since December 31st, 1990!  From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it. I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)  ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com> To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000  I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf? It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.  Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using. Thanks, Marcelino From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM To: List for the Presentations Committee Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.best,chrisOn Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch  <bcbloch at juno.com> wrote:That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL. Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it? Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away. Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.    ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com> To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net> Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org> Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC) We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter. Heinz           ______________________________ _________________ Ggcs-presentations mailing list Ggcs-presentations at box905. bluehost.com http://box905.bluehost.com/ mailman/listinfo/ggcs- presentations_ggcs.org_______________________________________________Ggcs-presentations mailing listGgcs-presentations at box905.bluehost.comhttp://box905.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/ggcs-presentations_ggcs.org

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From mnogueiro at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 17:27:30 2018
From: mnogueiro at hotmail.com (Marcelino Nogueiro)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:27:30 +0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
In-Reply-To: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20180112.152551.23026.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
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OK, so that is exactly how it's supposed to work!  Once opened, you can just click File, Save or Save As, and save it to your computer.

BTW: You can also "RIGHT" click on the link in the email then click on "Save Link As" and you can save it directly to your computer without opening it.


I think what we have is as easy and as usable as it gets!  Getting members to open their emails might be a different story!!!!


Thanks,

Marcelino



________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:25 PM
To: heinzs at yahoo.com; ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

Using Firefox, I get the same results as Heinz  when I click on the link in the Email announcing the Newsletter.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC)


Going to the newsletters tab from the website does not offer the current newsletter, as previous Board decisions to restrict access to active members on the first run. If it is desired to no longer delay the newsletter tab access, I need to know that.

The link from my email blast opens the pdf in my browser, whereupon I have the choice to print or download and save the document, or to just read it from there.


________________________________
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: "ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org" <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

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What about when you receive the email with the Newsletter announcement and you click on the Newsletter link?  Does it open or does it prompt you to save?
What browser are you using?

Thanks,
Marcelino


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From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:36 AM
To: ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

When I go to the link site and click on the NL DL, I get the option to either open it or save it.

I usually open it, read it and then save it to my computer.  But I've already proofed it before it comes.  I think my husband just reads it on line. (that means we're registering two hits for one family, which is really only one membership, right?)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
To: List for the Presentations Committee <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>, "Chris at wordcrafting.com" <Chris at wordcrafting.com>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:17:04 +0000


I'm all for doing whatever it takes to get the NL out to our members and hopefully having them read it.
My question to others is this: When you open the email from Heinz, and click on the link does the NL open up automatically as a pdf?

It does for me, I don't need to download or do anything else!  If I want to keep a copy I just click the floppy icon and save it.  This seems better than having it attached to the email and then having to open the attachment.  Some email systems make you save the attachment before it can be opened.

Let me know how this works for the rest of you. i.e. when you click the link what happens on your system and what email program are you using.

Thanks,
Marcelino


________________________________
From: Ggcs-presentations <ggcs-presentations-bounces at ggcs.org> on behalf of Chris Santilli Johnson <chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:16 PM
To: List for the Presentations Committee
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter

I'd love for the NL to be an attachment to member emails...
We all put so much time/effort into making it exist that it would be pitiful if only 5-10 people outside of us are actually reading it.
best,
chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, B. Bloch <bcbloch at juno.com<mailto:bcbloch at juno.com>> wrote:
That's really concerning, if people aren't going to link and getting the NL.

Do we have any way of telling how many people got to the web site and then to the NL there to view or DL it?

Perhaps we should ask people at the next few GM's whether and how they get the NL and try to see what's going on.  I realize that people may not have been reading the hard copy NL, but I know I have a tendency put off going to a link for a document and might never get around to it, whereas if it's an attachment, I get it right away.

Meanwhile, at Steering could we discuss possibility of Emailing the NL as an attachment so people actually get it without having to go to link and DL it?  When we mailed hard copy NL we at least knew it got there.



---------- Original Message ----------
From: Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com<mailto:heinzs at yahoo.com>>
To: Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com<mailto:mnogueiro at hotmail.com>>,  Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com<mailto:chris at wordcrafting.com>>,  Heinz Scheuenstuhl <hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com<mailto:hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>>,  Steve Shank <steve at shank.net<mailto:steve at shank.net>>
Cc: GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org<mailto:ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ggcs-presentations] GGCS January Newsletter
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:57 +0000 (UTC)

We advertise 4th Monday everywhere, including the website (as soon as I get it set up). My ratio of clicks per mailing of the newsletter link are extremely low. In addition, I will correct the text in the published newsletter.

Heinz






















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From chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 17:34:47 2018
From: chris.santilli.johnson at gmail.com (Chris Santilli Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:34:47 -0000
Subject: [Ggcs-presentations] {Disarmed} Re: GGCS January Newsletter
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ooops!  Here's the corrected draft...good news is that the calendar in the
NL was correct and the date in the story itself was correct and Jan. 27 is
a Saturday, not a Monday, so all that will help keep people on course with
the correct date.

Heinz, please post this updated draft online in case anyone refers to it...

Best,
Chris

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Don't you think we need to send out a notice with the corrected date?  I
> just don't want someone to make plans for the wrong day.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Heinz Scheuenstuhl <heinzs at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:12 PM
> *To:* Marcelino Nogueiro; Chris Santilli; Heinz Scheuenstuhl; Steve Shank
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations
> *Subject:* Re: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> I always send out a blast just before the meeting. No problem.
> Heinz
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marcelino Nogueiro <mnogueiro at hotmail.com>
> *To:* Chris Santilli <chris at wordcrafting.com>; Heinz Scheuenstuhl <
> hscheuenstuhl at gmail.com>; Steve Shank <steve at shank.net>
> *Cc:* GGCS Presentations Committee Presentations <
> ggcs-presentations at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* Fw: GGCS January Newsletter
>
> The date for the January GM shows as 27th on the NL.  It should be the
> 22nd.
> Looks like we all overlooked it!
>
> Heinz,
> Can you send out an email blast with the correct date.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcelino
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs=ggcs.org at mail249.atl101.
> mcdlv.net> on behalf of Golden Gate Computer Society <ggcs at ggcs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:24 PM
> *To:* mnogueiro at hotmail.com
> *Subject:* GGCS January Newsletter
>
> *What's new at the GGCS?*
> Your January issue of the Golden Gate Computer Society?s Newsletter is now
> available to you on line in PDF format.
>
> Following is the link to the Newsletter?s web page.  You may read it on
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